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Science makes me feel tingly in my lady parts. (Because I guess ALL of my parts are lady parts.)

I just saw the most horrifying Teen Wolf gif. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK, TUMBLR? WHY DO YOU DO THESE THINGS TO ME? Anyway, this is not about how Tumblr is apparently trying to smoke me out via Teen Wolf gifs or something, this is about BATMAN. I know, you're all surprised.

On Sunday we recorded our last Batcon episode of the podcast. Those should start going up at the end of this week. And I think I mentioned before that I wanted to write a post for the Big Girl Blog on Five Batman Movies I Want To See, so I'm here to do a little science by way of LJ Poll. What? LJ Polls are totally scientific.

[Poll #1852978]

This is unlocked, so share it if you like. FOR SCIENCE! In conclusion, I would like Kate Kane to be my girlfriend. The end.

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was the teen wolf gif something with an eye? i haven't seen it, but several people on my dash have been freaking out about people not tagging that shit, heh.

i like bruce SOMETIMES. i seem to recall liking him in the cartoon, at least? and i generally like his public persona, although his angsty sitting at home with alfred persona makes me want to bitchslap him sometimes.

YES. Oh god. Just. Just don't go looking for it. I mean, the other gifset of whoeveritis being devastatingly gorgeous while washing off blood in the shower is fine. The one with things erupting from his eye is not. Bleh.

I think you make a good point. And I agree with Em, that I actually kind of like Bruce in the Nolan movies, but that's probably because he's not screwing up the lives of impressionable young children in them.

ALSO i am surprised there aren't votes for 1989 batman. until the dark knight, it was definitely my favorite. (i haven't seen it since i was a kid though. so maybe wee!lisa just had terrible taste.)

(YES, HAD, PAST TENSE.)

WHATEVER. I'VE SEEN YOU DISPARAGE SCIENCE JUST THIS MORNING, SO THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON YOUR TASTE.

And I have '89 on my computer, if you want to revisit it. :p It's actually not that bad. And I liked Michael Keaton more than I thought I would.

I WAS MOSTLY DISPARAGING YOUR FACE :P

i might steal it from you!

and just to consolidate! i like bruce in the dark knight too. it's interesting to watch him struggle with wanting a normal life with rachel. i'm not a bat!expert (obvs) but i don't think that really gets addressed enough, that batman took over bruce's life and now he doesn't know how to get away from it. it's not really something you can do by half, you know? and i know that feel. i was actually sad for him when his hopes of harvey making batman unnecessary were killed :/

I KNOW. It's like he'd finally had the time to realize how deep he'd gotten in and that he was never going to be able to stop. And then he had that moment I have a lot, where the idea of doing something over and over every day of his life made him kind of freak out. Though, to be fair, with me it usually happens when I think about like, taking medications and going to sleep with the same person, and not putting on a big animal costume and stalking about in the dark. If there's anything I am it is NOT a secret furry.

i could really get behind more exploration of THAT bruce. what happens when bruce decides to put his needs before gotham's? (he adopts a bunch of orphans and ruins their lives, etc etc.)

how does bruce wayne feel about you calling him a furry?

I lovelovelovelovelovelove Batman Returns like no other, but I just could not get into Jack Nicholson as Joker in Batman. Joker was my favorite character for a very long time, but that's based mostly on comics and the Mark Hamill Joker.

I also wasn't allowed to see the first two Batman movies as a kid (I was pretty much banned from seeing Returns when I was 9, but I think it would've freaked me out, anyway), so I didn't see Batman and Returns until my 20s.

i liked batman returns a lot, but it's another one i haven't seen since i was a kid! i'm not sure if we were into the adam west batman before or after my mom let us watch the movie (i was only 5 when it came out, and i'm pretty sure we weren't obsessed with it til my little brother was old enough to watch it) but either way it just completely saturated my childhood so now i can't tell if i legit love them or if it's just nostalgia.

Oh man, I think the Adam West Batman reruns on TBS were pretty much my first exposure to Batman. I watched BTAS, too, but the 1960s Batman, whoa. We go back. Re-watching it was... pretty terrible, but it's fun at the very least.

And then I was head over heels for Batman Forever. I had the soundtrack and the VHS and everything. And then came Batman & Robin, which put me off Batman until Batman Begins. George Clooney might have been the worst Batman ever.

I answered honestly, Batman Forever is my favorite, but the BEST ONE, imo is The Dark Knight. I mean, I love the fuck out of all the cheese of Batman Forever, but it's ridiculous, puntastic, and it's not my version of Batman. (Also Val Kilmer is not My Batman.)

As for Bruce... I think he can be shitty, but it always depends which version of Bruce we're looking at. I like the Bruce we see in the Nolan films. He's complicated and feels like a real person and not like such a colossal dick who adopts orphans to turn them into mirror images of himself. (I also like Bruce through Dick's eyes because while Dick as an adult can see that Bruce is flawed, he'd do anything for him because he loves him and he gets what he's trying to do, despite how badly he sometimes does it.)

I'm pretty sure Val Kilmer isn't Val Kilmer's Batman either, but like we discussed, HOW DO YOU SAY NO TO BEING BATMAN? Shit. I'd be Batman if someone asked.

I agree about Bruce in the Nolan-verse. Probably because he's not screwing up the lives of impressionable young children. And Dick's love and reverence for Bruce is honestly one of the reasons I like Dick so much. As far as experiments in seat of your pants child rearing go, Dick Grayson turned out okay.

I don't know the Robins very well so I couldn't answer that one! :(

It's okay! Robins are pretty cool all around.

My only complaint at this poll is that I wish I could pick more than one favourite Bat-film.

Fair enough! Which other(s) would you have picked?

I love Dark Knight 'cause OMG SO SRS and it's a really well-done film and all...

But, DAMN there's a lot to be said for Adam West Batman.

I adore Adam West and the whole 60s set of recordings. I think I seal clapped with glee for five minutes straight when I heard that he and Burt Ward were coming to Dragon*Con this year. For better or worse, the 60s versions were the versions a lot of people saw first. No matter how dark or deep people try to go with the stories these days, those interpretations are still floating around somewhere in the collective conscious and mocking us all with trampolines and snipey comments about day drinkers. ♥

Which is how it SHOULD be, dangit! I know that current DC canon is all about how SUPER SERIOUS a man dressing up in tights to punch a clown is, was and always will be but Batman's just a hard-to-see old misery guts without Burt Ward's many exclamations and Adam West's inability to properly dispose of a bomb.

I want JUST BARBARA GORDON at dinner really though. ALL TO MYSELF YES.

THAT IS AN UNDERSTANDABLE NEED. I GET IT. I DO. Ugh. As much as I want Dick and Kate to go out dancing and having adventures together, I really, really love Dick and Babs together. I want them to do them right in a movie one day. WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU SAID, BUT WHATEVER. IT'S MY SCIENTIFIC BATPOLL AND I'LL RAMBLE IF I WANT TO.

Also, I'm surprised you said Carrie Kelly. I don't know anything about her myself, and I never see her come up when other people are discussing Robins.

Unfortunately, I believe Carrie has fallen victim to Hey, Wait, Frank Miller's An Asshole syndrome, which retroactively shades the good things he used to do. Apparently she's kind of awful in Strikes Back, which I am more glad every year I never read.

I went looking for scans and found this, which is awesome. She basically bullied her way into being Robin, and she pretty much represents the only softness Bruce gets to show in The Dark Knight, so. Also, you know. First girl Robin. Gotta respect that.

I answered as best I could but honestly? My favourite Batman movie is Community. Abed!Batman is the best Batman.

THAT DOES NOT COUNT AS A BATMAN MOVIE.

One day I'll watch that show, I promise.

YES, DO WATCH IT

AND WHEN YOU DO

YOU WILL UNDERSTAND.

Community DOES count as a Batman movie. As a matter of fact Community is THE QUINTESSENCE OF THE BATMAN MOVIE.

Although it's a TV show, but shush.

Hee. The TV show part is the part that's getting points taken off your paper. Otherwise I would have just put The Brave and the Bold a hundred times, because damn is that tv show fun.

Oh, and also the fact that there must be like 4 episodes which have "Batman" in them. But, well, I can be pretty hyperbolic about Community... It's a leeeettle bit formulaic (not in the themes, but in the structure), but never enough that it's grating, and it never, ever fails to be fun. (It also contains a great deal of pretty upfront discussion about race and ethnicity and racism, which is pretty scarce in the shows I watch...)

More seriously, I should totally watch The Brave and the Bold, once the dust has settled and I have some time to do stuff like marathoning a series in three days. (Cause right now I'm a bit busy)

My favorite Batman will always be cartoon Batman because dat voice.

But WHICH cartoon Batman!? I'm really partial to Under the Red Hood, in which Jensen Ackles is Jason Todd and
Neil Patrick Harris is Dick Grayson. But I also enjoy Diedrich Bader as Batman in Brave and the Bold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Conroy

Old school! Well sort of old school. Mostly middle school.

Batman will always sound like Kevin Conroy to me.

What is the Batman's favorite fruity drink? What kind of jello does he buy at the store? Which Robin made him cry the most? What do you find when you google "Bat package"?

is he called batman because he was bitten by a radioactive bat, or because he is radioactive and bites bats? or is he just a grown man who provides bats at baseball games?

how do you feel about dick?

who is the best batman bad guy? (for realz.)

how is gordon SO BAD-ASS? ALSO WHY CAN'T I HAVE DINNER WITH HIM? HE TOTES COUNTS, SHUT UP.

Where's the question about Batman villians? I love all the 60s villians. Cesar Romero, Frank Gorshin, Vincent Price plus julie Newmar AND Eartha Kitt as Catwoman.

+ ELEVENTYONE!11!!!!!1!!!!!

The questions about villains are in another poll altogether! We have to start with the principle cast, after all. At least I do. I would LOVE to see you guys come up with movies that are based solely on the villains.

Also, Eartha Kitt is a goddess and I always stand behind my man Vincent.

I NEED THE BEST DAMN ROGUE'S GALLERY POLL, AND NAO.

I think Batman has the best comic book villains, hands down.

What does Batman have to do with Jedi? How does he feel about carbs? How many feelings does Jason have? Is Batman my real daddy?

WHY DIDN'T YOU LIST EVERY BATMAN MOVIE EVER, KL? GOD.

ADAM WEST RULZ THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS THE GOD'S HONEST TRUTH, AND IF I SEE HIM AT D*C THIS YEAR I WILL TELL HIM THAT. I mean, if I actually get a chance to talk to him, and not if I just run headlong into him in a hallway like I did with George Takei. Cons are DANGEROUS.

That reminds me of the time

myras_girls and I ran into George Takei and his partner as we were leaving some sort of PROM thing. IDEK. I miss D*C.

I miss D*C every day.

What exercise does Batman do in the morning?

Batman is afraid of Malteses. When and how did this happen?

Late! And I don't know anything about batman but whatever ticky boxes!!

Ticky makes everything better!

All of the Robins are my absolute favorites, so I just went with Dick, since he had finger stripes and disco feathers. BUT I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT QUESTION WAS HARD.

OH. I KNOW. But dude. The disco feathers. ♥

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Science makes me feel tingly in my lady parts. (Because I guess ALL of my parts are lady parts.)

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